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    Rohn007 commented  · 

    Too bad Storage option didn't work, Office is made of "real applications" rather than the "new & improved" "Metro (c*r*)apps.

    OK, again, with a little more luck than the last try you can use an "old school" technique called "Symbolic Links". This tool is used to create a "link" that tricks Windows into thinking that the files are located on the C: drive when they are really located some place else you have defined.

    365 ALTERNATE INSTALL LOCATION - SYMBOLIC LINKS
    I have received independent confirmation that using symbolic links will successfully redirect Office 365 installations to an alternate location.

    How to: Move Installed Programs to Another Drive in Windows 7, 8, 10 https://www.infopackets.com/news/9789/how-move-installed-programs-another-drive-windows-7-8-10 Use a Program called "Junction" made by SysInternals to create the Symbolic Links for you. Also read the comment for a different idea.

    Create Symbolic Links, Hard Links and Directory Junctions in Vista with MKLINK - http://www.mydigitallife.info/create-symbolic-links-hard-links-and-directory-junctions-in-vista-with-mklink/

    Complete Guide to Symbolic Links (symlinks) on Windows or Linux http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

    Be more efficient and better organized with the MKLink symbolic link tool - http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/be-more-efficient-and-better-organized-with-the-mklink-symbolic-link-tool/

    http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardlinkshellext.html

    *********Description of how using Symbolic Link has been done **********
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_2016-office_install/office-16-drive-location/0c62927c-721a-4629-b283-5809c8e16f2c

    <snip>
    Palcouk replied on Oct 26, 2015:
    Office click to run products install to the win drive, you cannot do a custom install, its an all or nothing install
    There is a method, if you are prepared to delve in. Modify the following steps according to your specific situation:
    I too was wanting to move my Office 365 install to a different drive. My main goal was to put it on a RamDisk to make it very quick to load.
    • I had created a RamDisk of 5GB, using http://www.radeonramdisk.com/software_downloads.php . The new drive was mounted as drive O:
    • Install Office 365 as normal, on the C drive.
    • Make a note of the two main Office directories:
    C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office 15
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office
    • Empty the Recycle bin before continuing.
    • Run Task Manager
    • Stop anything Microsoft Office related.
    • Delete both of the above directories
    • Open a CMD prompt, and run these commands:
    MKLINK /J "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office 15" "O:\Program Files\Microsoft Office 15"?
    MKLINK /J "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office" "O:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office"
    • This created junction points for each directory on the C drive that Office installs to, and point them to the O drive. So the OS thinks its going to C drive for those folders, but in reality its going to the O drive.
    • Go to the recycle bin and restore all the deleted files. The files then appeared on the O drive.
    • Save the RamDisk to an image file (so it gets loaded when windows starts)
    • Reboot
    After reboot, when I open an office app, its so fast you can't time it!
    You don't have to do the ramdisk portion, its the junction's that make it work.
    I have 32GB of ram, and am only using about 5gb on average, so having a ramdisk makes sense for me.
    RamDisks are about 8 to 10 times faster than SSD but are volatile memory, so it needs to be saved to disk if you don't want to lose it.
    </snip>

    SYMBOLIC LINKS TO REDIRECT CTR INSTALLATION?

    You can use "Symbolic" links to tell the Office 365 installer to put the program files in a different location on the HD, or a different drive
    http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/be-more-efficient-and-better-organized-with-the-mklink-symbolic-link-tool/ -Be more efficient and better organized with the MKLink symbolic link tool

    http://www.howtogeek.com/194431/how-to-sync-any-folder-to-the-cloud-with-symbolic-links/ - How to Sync Any Folder to the Cloud With Symbolic Links

    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/ -Complete Guide to Symbolic Links (symlinks) on Windows or Linux

    http://www.mydigitallife.info/create-symbolic-links-hard-links-and-directory-junctions-in-vista-with-mklink/ -Create Symbolic Links, Hard Links and Directory Junctions in Vista with MKLINK

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930 - Link Shell extension (a tool to allow you to make the Links from Windows rather than from the Command Line)

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    Rohn007 commented  · 

    Marc:
    I completely agree with your sentiment. But what you are seeing is just another symptom of MS trying to emulate Apple and take more control of the environment.

    If you are in Win 10 you may want check out this new option I just "discovered". In the Settings dialog > Storage option > Save locations there is an option to select where "New apps will save to". It seems be able to do what we want ... Give it a try.

    http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/6422-apps-save-location-change-windows-10-a.html

    Let us know if it works.

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    Rohn007 commented  · 

    Read the thread. At the top of page 2 I have given links to instructions on how to install Office 2016 on a drive other than C:

    You have to use Windows "Symbolic Links" to "trick" Windoze into thinking it is looking at C: when it is actually redirected to another drive ...

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    Rohn007 commented  · 

    Nic727, Office 365 is setup to be "idiot proof", so it is an all or nothing installation. MS figures there are more idiots than intelligent customers ... <sigh>

    Scroll down and look at my earlier comment. There are instructions on how to customize your 365 installation. It just is not as easy as it used to be.

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    Rohn007 commented  · 

    Why all or nothing. Because it makes support easier for MS. Which means it is cheaper for MS. The off load the cost on to each of us.

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    Rohn007 commented  · 

    Simone: sorry, I got distracted ... "Why CTR"? it is an obvious extension of what MS started with the switch to the Ribbon. Reduce MS support costs by eliminating user choice, aka menu customization! The same thing applies to customized Office installs. If they force EVERYONE to have the same installation configuration, AND they force essentially EVERYONE to accept all updates. This way everyone has the same limited set of installation configurations. It makes it much easier for MS to trouble shoot problems

    Put simply, MS is trying to force PC's back to the 1960's totally locked down, computer department (aka MS) controlled IBM mainframe environment.

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    Rohn007 commented  · 

    Simone: why do you have to install all? Because of MS's final push to move ALL installations into the "Click to Run" environment. By default CTR is an all or nothing installation.

    You have 2 options. The first, simpler one, is to use "symbolic links" to redirect the installation folder to an external drive. The second one is to use the "Deployment Tool". I have no idea if it will work for a tablet

    #1
    SYMBOLIC LINKS TO REDIRECT CTR INSTALLATION?
    http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/be-more-efficient-and-better-organized-with-the-mklink-symbolic-link-tool/ -Be more efficient and better organized with the MKLink symbolic link tool

    http://www.howtogeek.com/194431/how-to-sync-any-folder-to-the-cloud-with-symbolic-links/ - How to Sync Any Folder to the Cloud With Symbolic Links

    #2
    CUSTOMIZE MICROSOFT OFFICE CLICK-TO-RUN (C2R) SETUP TO INSTALL SELECTED PROGRAMS ONLY (2013 / 2016) ASKVG. - DEPLOYMENT TOOL
    http://www.askvg.com/tip-customize-microsoft-office-click-to-run-c2r-setup-to-install-selected-programs-only/

    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj219426.aspx
    Above link has detailed instructions.
    This tool is intended for Business Office Administrators. Apparently it may also be used for consumer Office bundles. (I have not tried it myself, rohn 007)

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    Rohn007 commented  · 

    Maybe You can do that:

    check the instructions on this page:
    https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Download-and-install-Office-using-Office-365-for-business-on-your-PC-72977511-dfd1-4d8b-856f-405cfb76839c

    Is there a "Download and save" option in step 3 as well as the "Run" option?

    HOW DO I USE THE Consumer OFFICE 365/2016 OFFLINE INSTALLER?

    https://support.office.com/en-us/article/How-do-I-use-the-Office-2016-offline-installer-f0a85fe7-118f-41cb-a791-d59cef96ad1c

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    You may find what you are looking for on this site: http://powershell.office.com/

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    Simple fix, migrate the Office 2010 and 2007 color schemes into current versions of Office. Let people pick the one that works best for them.

    Create an open API for developers to make color schemes.

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    For anyone with this issue, MS has come up with a "free upgrade" offer
    Special offer for customers with Office 2016 and Office 2013 standalone applications - Free Upgrade

    https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Special-offer-for-customers-with-Office-2016-and-Office-2013-standalone-applications-c32e3cad-e935-4163-a44f-50d896e10bbc

    https://support.office.com/en-us/article/-We-need-to-remove-some-older-apps-error-a225347f-e102-4ea6-9796-5d1ac5220c3b

    ******************

    I would like MS to create Office bundles, with reasonable prices that include Visio and Project.

    There should be a Consumer bundle that includes Visio.

    Office 365 University and 365 Education should include both of these applications. That is the point of those bundles, expose students to Office applications so that they have preferences for Office apps. How could these apps be excluded.

    Create click to (not) run bundles for all Office 365 offerings that include Visio and/or Project. When user with appropriate licenses goes for download MyAccount should recognize and download the appropriate installation bundle.

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    You can use your own personal email with a personal domain to connect to any type of Office 365 subscription, including Office 365 Home. Office 365 Home relies on a Microsoft account for authentication. A Microsoft account can be created with any personal domain email, it is not required to be Outlook.com/Hotmail.com, etc. Once the Microsoft account is created using your personal email, you can use it to activate and sign into your Office 365 Home subscription.
    If you don’t have a Microsoft account, go to the Microsoft account sign-up page and click on Create account. In the User name box enter your personal domain email address you wish to use. Fill out the rest of the form and click Create account.
    Now you can set up your Office 365 Home subscription with your Microsoft account. This will be the Microsoft account associated with your Office download. If you have…

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    Rohn007 commented  · 

    A lot of people want this. Here is a question/discussion at the answers forum. It has LOTS of entries. Someone here linked from there to here, so I think it is worthwhile to do the reverse:

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_365hp-office_install/use-of-own-domain-name-with-office-365-homepremium/77d72795-dd77-4f08-a2f5-a273603453eb?page=7

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